“I mean, it ticks all the boxes in terms of classic definition where there was native people, and I know all the arguments will run, well sure, they were never united, they were involved in chieftains and all tribal war and all this ... I mean, the plantation took place and people were dispossessed and ... you realised the length, the durability of historical memory, because people will turn around and say, let me let that land over there, these beautiful lush fields, you know, this would be this would be like a sheep farmer, tell him this land over there, see that field beside that river, that belonged to my ancestors, that was taken from us. And that was still there, believe it or not, in the twentieth century, that resentment.”